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Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings
Ratings for the week July 27-31, 2009
(Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)
http://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/31386-latest-ratings-good-week-for-daysbboltl/
Total Viewers
1. Y&R 4,938,000 (+2,000/-375,000)
2. B&B 3,471,000 (+209,000/-63,000)
3. DAYS 2,804,000 (+205,000/+252,000)
4. GH 2,600,000 (-106,000/-25,000)
5. OLTL 2,574,000 (+14,000/+109,000)
6. AMC 2,424,000 (-59,000/+41,000)
7. ATWT 2,284,000 (-93,000/-405,000)
8. GL 2,003,000 (-76,000/-268,000)
HH
1. Y&R 3.6/11 (same/-.2)
2. B&B 2.5/8 (+.1/-.1)
3. GH 1.9/6 (-.1/-.1)
3. OLTL 1.9/6 (+.1/same)
3. DAYS 1.9/6 (+.1/same)
6. AMC 1.8/6 (-.1/-.1)
7. ATWT 1.7/5 (same/-.2)
8. GL 1.5/4 (same/-.1)
Women 18-49 Viewers
1. Y&R 1,101,000 (+5,000/-99,000)
2. GH 817,000 (-72,000/-5,000)
3. B&B 771,000 (+9,000/+20,000)
4. OLTL 765,000 (+2,000/+36,000)
5. AMC 741,000 (+47,000/+55,000)
6. DAYS 724,000 (+27,000/+3,000)
7. ATWT 568,000 (-28,000/-75,000)
8. GL 487,000 (-49,000/-120,000)
Women 18-49 Rating
1. Y&R 1.7/11 (same/-.1)
2. B&B 1.2/7 (+.1/+.1)
2. GH 1.2/7 (-.1/same)
2. OLTL 1.2/7 (same/+.1)
5. AMC 1.1/7 (+.1/+.1)
5. DAYS 1.1/7 (same/same)
7. ATWT 0.9/5 (same/-.1)
8. GL 0.7/4 (-.1/-.2)
Girls 12-17 Viewers
1. DAYS 71,000 (-4,000/+17,000)
2. OLTL 63,000 (-12,000/-6,000)
3. Y&R 46,000 (+5,000/-9,000)
4. GH 41,000 (-46,000/+5,000)
5. AMC 30,000 (-6,000/-24,000)
6. B&B 26,000 (-4,000/-18,000)
7. ATWT 21,000 (-13,000/-31,000)
8. GL 12,000 (-11,000/-23,000)
Women 18-34 Rating
1. Y&R 1.1/7 (same/-.1)
2. AMC 0.9/6 (+.1/+.3)
2. DAYS 0.9/6 (-.1/+.1)
2. GH 0.9/5 (-.2/+.1)
2. OLTL 0.9/5 (same/+.2)
6. B&B 0.7/4 (same/+.1)
7. ATWT 0.5/3 (same/same)
8. GL 0.4/2 (-.1/-.1)
Men 18+ Viewers
1. Y&R 1,182,000 (+80,000/-111,000)
2. B&B 710,000 (+23,000/-75,000)
3. DAYS 564,000 (+70,000/+60,000)
4. GH 438,000 (-16,000/-64,000)
5. AMC 419,000 (-81,000/-8,000)
6. OLTL 415,000 (-34,000/-20,000)
7. ATWT 413,000 (-38,000/-126,000)
8. GL 370,000 (-19,000/-96,000)
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Day-To-Day Ratings - HH/Total Viewers
AMC
Monday: 1.9/2,485,000
Tuesday: 2.0/2,670,000
Wednesday: 1.9/2,381,000
Thursday: 1.7/2,308,000
Friday: 1.6/2,276,000
ATWT
Monday: 1.7/2,305,000
Tuesday: 1.7/2,338,000
Wednesday: 1.5/2,037,000
Thursday: 1.8/2,472,000
Friday: 1.8/2,269,000
B&B
Monday: 2.5/3,369,000
Tuesday: 2.7/3,641,000
Wednesday: 2.4/3,210,000
Thursday: 2.6/3,713,000
Friday: 2.5/3,421,000
DAYS
Monday: 2.0/2,855,000
Tuesday: 2.0/2,813,000
Wednesday: 2.1/2,989,000
Thursday: 1.8/2,838,000
Friday: 1.7/2,525,000
GH
Monday: 1.9/2,519,000
Tuesday: 2.0/2,693,000
Wednesday: 1.9/2,516,000
Thursday: 1.9/2,617,000
Friday: 1.9/2,656,000
GL
Monday: 1.4/1,936,000
Tuesday: 1.5/2,102,000
Wednesday: 1.5/1,968,000
Thursday: 1.4/1,872,000
Friday: 1.6/2,150,000
OLTL
Monday: 2.0/2,548,000
Tuesday: 1.9/2,676,000
Wednesday: 1.8/2,437,000
Thursday: 1.8/2,542,000
Friday: 1.8/2,665,000
Y&R
Monday: 3.6/4,863,000
Tuesday: 3.8/5,245,000
Wednesday: 3.6/4,925,000
Thursday: 3.4/4,843,000
Friday: 3.5/4,814,000
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For the SEASON September 22, 2008 through August 2, 2009
HH
1. Y&R 3.7
2. B&B 2.6
3. DAYS 2.2
4. GH 2.1
5. AMC 2.0
5. OLTL 2.0
7. ATWT 1.9
8. GL 1.6
Women 18-49 Rating
1. Y&R 1.8
2. DAYS 1.5
2. GH 1.5
4. B&B 1.2
4. AMC 1.2
4. OLTL 1.2
7. ATWT 1.0
8. GL 0.8
Soap Opera Ratings, July 20-24, 2009
Posted on 30 July 2009 by Bill Gorman
(Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)
Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings
Total Viewers
1. Y&R 4,936,000 (+333,000/-135,000)
2. B&B 3,262,000 (+192,000/-340,000)
3. GH 2,706,000 (+304,000/-128,000)
4. DAYS 2,599,000 (+14,000/+78,000)
5. OLTL 2,560,000 (+113,000/-199,000)
6. AMC 2,483,000 (+88,000/-184,000)
7. ATWT 2,377,000 (+168,000/-335,000)
8. GL 2,079,000 (+121,000/-266,000)
HH
1. Y&R 3.6/12 (+.2/-.1)
2. B&B 2.4/8 (+.1/-.3)
3. GH 2.0/6 (+.2/-.2)
4. AMC 1.9/6 (+.1/-.1)
5. OLTL 1.8/6 (same/-.2) <——- ties low rating (Last time: July 13-17, 2009)
5. DAYS 1.8/6 (same/same) <——- ties low rating (Last time: July 13-17, 2009)
7. ATWT 1.7/6 (+.1/-.3)
8. GL 1.5/5 (+.1/-.2)
Women 18-49 Viewers
1. Y&R 1,096,000 (+70,000/-59,000)
2. GH 889,000 (+90,000/-34,000)
3. OLTL 763,000 (+36,000/-58,000)
4. B&B 762,000 (+95,000/-53,000)
5. DAYS 697,000 (-49,000/+18,000)
6. AMC 694,000 (+7,000/-110,000)
7. ATWT 596,000 (+46,000/-91,000)
8. GL 536,000 (+60,000/-126,000)
Women 18-49 Rating
1. Y&R 1.7/11 (+.2/-.1)
2. GH 1.3/8 (+.1/-.1)
3. OLTL 1.2/7 (+.1/same)
4. DAYS 1.1/7 (same/+.1)
4. B&B 1.1/7 (+.1/-.1)
6. AMC 1.0/7 (same/-.2)
7. ATWT 0.9/6 (+.1/-.1)
8. GL 0.8/5 (+.1/-.2)
Girls 12-17 Viewers
1. GH 87,000 (+34,000/+47,000)
2. DAYS 75,000 (+13,000/+17,000)
2. OLTL 75,000 (+13,000/+8,000)
4. Y&R 41,000 (-3,000/-10,000)
5. AMC 36,000 (+6,000/-16,000)
6. ATWT 34,000 (+10,000/-4,000)
7. B&B 30,000 (same/-3,000)
8. GL 23,000 (-13,000/-6,000)
Women 18-34 Rating
1. Y&R 1.1/7 (+.1/same)
1. GH 1.1/7 (+.1/+.1)
3. DAYS 1.0/6 (same/+.2)
4. OLTL 0.9/6 (same/same)
5. AMC 0.8/5 (same/same)
6. B&B 0.7/4 (same/same)
7. GL 0.5/3 (+.1/-.1)
7. ATWT 0.5/3 (-.1/-.1)
Men 18+ Viewers
1. Y&R 1,102,000 (+80,000/-85,000)
2. B&B 687,000 (+54,000/-89,000)
3. AMC 500,000 (+38,000/+17,000)
4. DAYS 494,000 (+37,000/-50,000)
5. GH 454,000 (+49,000/-70,000)
6. ATWT 451,000 (+82,000/-81,000)
7. OLTL 449,000 (+22,000/-60,000)
8. GL 389,000 (+38,000/-60,000)
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Day-To-Day Ratings – HH/Total Viewers
AMC
Monday: 2.0/2,590,000
Tuesday: 1.9/2,589,000
Wednesday: 1.8/2,393,000
Thursday: 1.8/2,442,000
Friday: 1.8/2,401,000
ATWT
Monday: 1.8/2,643,000
Tuesday: 1.7/2,374,000
Wednesday: 1.7/2,253,000
Thursday: 1.8/2,344,000
Friday: 1.7/2,269,000
B&B
Monday: 2.5/3,454,000
Tuesday: 2.4/3,362,000
Wednesday: 2.4/3,119,000
Thursday: 2.3/3,092,000
Friday: 2.4/3,283,000
DAYS
Monday: 1.9/2,739,000
Tuesday: 1.8/2,552,000
Wednesday: 1.9/2,700,000
Thursday: 1.9/2,601,000
Friday: 1.7/2,400,000
GH
Monday: 2.0/2,736,000
Tuesday: 2.2/3,086,000
Wednesday: 1.9/2,646,000
Thursday: 2.0/2,668,000
Friday: 1.7/2,395,000
GL
Monday: 1.6/2,331,000
Tuesday: 1.5/2,191,000
Wednesday: 1.5/2,013,000
Thursday: 1.4/1,918,000
Friday: 1.4/1,944,000
OLTL
Monday: 1.9/2,640,000
Tuesday: 2.0/2,855,000
Wednesday: 1.8/2,471,000
Thursday: 1.8/2,468,000
Friday: 1.7/2,365,000
Y&R
Monday: 3.7/5,113,000
Tuesday: 3.7/5,062,000
Wednesday: 3.7/4,968,000
Thursday: 3.4/4,776,000
Friday: 3.5/4,758,000
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For the SEASON September 22, 2008 through July 26, 2009
HH
1. Y&R 3.7
2. B&B 2.6
3. DAYS 2.2
4. GH 2.1
5. AMC 2.0
5. OLTL 2.0
7. ATWT 1.9
8. GL 1.6
Women 18-49 Rating
1. Y&R 1.8
2. DAYS 1.5
2. GH 1.5
4. B&B 1.2
4. AMC 1.2
4. OLTL 1.2
7. ATWT 1.0
8. GL 0.8
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Wednesday, August 19, 2009
Friday, January 30, 2009
Thaao Penghlis Fired: Who will be next?
According to Nelson Branco of the TV Guide Suds Report, the ax has come down on another Days of Our Lives vet. Thaao Penghlis, who was know for playing the dual role of Tony and Andre, is the latest vet to be released from contract. He is to die in March as part of a major murder mystery.
The executives and Higley have obviously decided to accelerate their plan to have Days cancelled; hopeful after which their careers in TV will be totally over. Only a moron would hire any of them after the hack job they did on Days.
With the firing of Dee and Drake, they not only brought the wrath of the super couple down on them, but the contempt of soap fans and industry insiders a like. Not only was the firing foolish, but their exit was an insult to the actors and their fans. Hastily put together and without one creative thought, the storyline was disgraceful. Yet then again, what do you expect from a writer who is incapable of writing for intelligent, powerful women--only those who use sex to get what they want.
With the incomplete and nonsensical storylines along with the total disregard for the show and characters' history alike, Days has become a nothing more than soft porn for teens and tweens. The veteran actors who have the loyal fan bases and actually have talent have been tossed aside for younger actors who lack talent enough to get parts in anything other than grammar school productions, where the whole class is forced to participate.
With the sweeps being pushed back to March, due to the digital conversion, Corday and Higley are once again making promises they never intend on keeping. The big romance reunion of Marlena and John was actually a fifteen minute slam-bam-thank-you-mamam as they got the bums rush out the door.
As for Higley's ability to write a major murder mystery--she can't write herself out of a wet paper bag. One industry insider was quotes as says she shouldn't be allowed to write a grocery list, while actors, which she previously worked with have been quoted as calling her a hack.
As another beloved vet is cast off, so will another loyal fan base turn against the show. Who will be next? Soon the only actors remaining will be the teens, who think have sex with older men gives them power. Makes you wonder....
The executives and Higley have obviously decided to accelerate their plan to have Days cancelled; hopeful after which their careers in TV will be totally over. Only a moron would hire any of them after the hack job they did on Days.
With the firing of Dee and Drake, they not only brought the wrath of the super couple down on them, but the contempt of soap fans and industry insiders a like. Not only was the firing foolish, but their exit was an insult to the actors and their fans. Hastily put together and without one creative thought, the storyline was disgraceful. Yet then again, what do you expect from a writer who is incapable of writing for intelligent, powerful women--only those who use sex to get what they want.
With the incomplete and nonsensical storylines along with the total disregard for the show and characters' history alike, Days has become a nothing more than soft porn for teens and tweens. The veteran actors who have the loyal fan bases and actually have talent have been tossed aside for younger actors who lack talent enough to get parts in anything other than grammar school productions, where the whole class is forced to participate.
With the sweeps being pushed back to March, due to the digital conversion, Corday and Higley are once again making promises they never intend on keeping. The big romance reunion of Marlena and John was actually a fifteen minute slam-bam-thank-you-mamam as they got the bums rush out the door.
As for Higley's ability to write a major murder mystery--she can't write herself out of a wet paper bag. One industry insider was quotes as says she shouldn't be allowed to write a grocery list, while actors, which she previously worked with have been quoted as calling her a hack.
As another beloved vet is cast off, so will another loyal fan base turn against the show. Who will be next? Soon the only actors remaining will be the teens, who think have sex with older men gives them power. Makes you wonder....
Sunday, January 25, 2009
From the NBC Days of Our Lives Fan Board: People that don't want to watch Days anymore
Like all industries, television networks and producers sell a product; in their case, it is entertainment. If the company doesn't provide a quality product that meets the consumers interests, standards or expectation, then it simply will not survive. The viewers are consumers and the product. The networks and TV stations used entertainment, news and sports to attract viewer; after which, they sell that attention to sponsors. Simple, yet some in the industry have forgotten that no matter how much they push a show or idea, if the viewers aren't buying there is nothing they can do about it. NBC, Sony and Corday Productions have taken for granted the loyal viewership of the Days of Our Lives. The viewers are just leaving. The executive are driving them away.
The following quotes are from the NBC fan board.
DOOLFr33k
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I also feel that letting Drake and Diedre go was a HUGE mistake by TPTB but I will still watch the show to support the veterans that are still on the show.
What so many of you "I'm not gonna watch Days ever again"-ers aren't thinking about is that if you don't watch Days, you will be putting all the other vets out of a job as well by letting the show get cancelled! I personally will not support that.
I really hope that with Drake and Diedre gone it will make more room for Steve and Kayla to have a major storyline of their own.
Hartleyfan
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Posts: 8,204
Joined: 14-January 07
From: Ready to leave DOOL with Drake and Deidre
Member No.: 226,229
I completly understand,but I am showing my devotion and loyalty to Drake and Dee and I refuse to continue watching a show that treats fans and actors like a pile of sh**.
gingerp
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Member No.: 78,411
Steve and Kayla have had more than one big storyline since they returned. Sorry, but I will never support this show again. I don't care if it stays on the air or is cancelled.
DrakeDBEST
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Posts: 920
Joined: 7-September 07
From: Canada
Member No.: 276,726
My all-time favorite actor had his role terminated after 23 CONSECUTIVE years on DAYS even though he NEVER said once that he wanted to leave the show. Drake wanted to stay with the show until it went off the air but it didn't matter to TPTB. I'll never support the show again that did this to him so as of today, I'm done with DAYS. I'm sorry to the vets left behind because IMO they're in for rough times ahead.
StevePatchFan
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Posts: 625
Joined: 21-October 07
Member No.: 282,485
I think Drake and Deidre will be back, mark my words.
melly123
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Posts: 195
Joined: 9-April 07
Member No.: 248,866
I agree..it will be just like the last time when they "killed off" John. I think they like when they get viewers in a big uproar. I'll still be watching.
Theresa_Chaze
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Member No.: 285,927
There will be nothing to come back to. Even if Days does last more than a couple of month, both Dee and Drake have enough fans that any show who picked them up would get a big boost in the ratings. Rumor has it GH is courting Dee. It's also rumored that Drake wants to go into producing. Once they move on, they aren't coming back, especially they way were treated.
If you believe Corday when he said they would be back, I got a bridge for you. It doesn't go any where, so I'll give you a good deal on the purchase price.
As for thinking of the other vets, they aren't being treated any better than Dee or Drake. It's just a matter of time before their air time goes down to zero and they are off the show in the same way. It a simple race to what happens first. The cancellation or the next vet firing
JarlenaFan
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Member No.: 316,917
I love so many vets on the show, but even with my love of John and Marlena the stories have been hard to watch this year. I don't have the heart or energy to stick around and see what they can do to Hope, Steve, Tony, Anna, Bo, etc.
Mia_Devlin
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Posts: 2,108
Joined: 28-December 05
From: Until Matt comes home!
Member No.: 78,463
The problem is why should anyone watch if the show no longer entertains them? I can't find a single storyline happening right now that actually entertains me. It has less to do with the characters then he writing. How about TPTB try and gain fans by 1) writing an entertaining show that actually makes sense and gives the fans a reason to want to watch? 2) How about writing for the characters we have known and loved for years and staying true to those characters rich histories? This show could be so much more then it is. They have talented actors but the writing they are given well it stinks to high heaven and no one should have to watch that unless they enjoy torturing themselves. It isn't the fans responsibility to keep this show on the air it is Corday and Higley's responsibility and one doesn't seem to give a damn and they other can't write worth a damn.
Aeb_2308
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Member No.: 340,542
That is true that they should rely on history and a lot of Fan fic writers could do a better job but I will continue watching my favorite Charactors and hope that someday the writing might improve. You can't force people to watch or not watch a show. If people are not entertained by the show than they should not watch it.
I hope that Steve and Kayla get a good story now that John and Marlana are gone.
Jiggs
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Posts: 4,417
Joined: 28-December 05
From: J&M Heaven
Member No.: 78,414
Well, I am not a fan of Steve and Kayla, and I don't believe in watching a show I am no longer invested in nor care about. It's suppose to be entertainment, which is a selfish act. I don't watch shows that I don't like. I don't owe Days of Our Lives anything, nor the remaining vets.
mesagirl
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Member No.: 274,884
My thoughts are that although I understand this loyalty some have to just two characters in a huge ensemble cast, that we need to remember that there would be no "Dee and Drake" if it weren't for Days in the first place.
Days was around a long time before the characters of Marlena and then John were introduced. There is more to Days than just John and Marlena.
When I finally stop watching this show(which is fast approaching I fear), that I've watched for the past quarter of a century I might add, it won't be because two actors got fired because of a very volatile financial climate. It will be because the story lines suck, the writing sucks, etc. Which unfortunately to me, is what has happened.
Watching Days for me the past few months, years almost, has become a chore, a sense of obligation. There is no longer the anticipation that used to come with watching this show. There is no one left to root for, no one to identify with, no character that is interesting enough to make me want to tune in to find out what happens to them. That is the fault of the writers, producers and casting directors.
Where are the epic story lines? Why do people fall in love at the drop of a hat now, instead of letting the story build slowly, so the viewers can be screaming in their living room... just kiss already! Where is the good vs evil story lines? Days is now a blur of characters that walk around with no meaning, no agenda, no story line. Some prop other characters, some just bed hop, some are fading in to the woodwork. Too many s/l's have started and yet have never gone anywhere.... we get a middle that had no beginning, and never sees an end.
Days, like Mia says, has hardly any entertainment value left to it. It's been gone a long time now, well before Dee and Drake were let go, well before Days turned in to an afterschool special.
There's just nothing special left to this soap anymore. It's all been sucked out by the poor s/l's and crappy writing.
Sorry, had to vent there. I'm done heh.
Jiggs
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Mesagirl, I used to enjoy the whole show... over the years that changed until all I cared about anymore was J&M. Of course there is more to Days than J&M, but not for me. I think for many, letting go of D&D is just the last straw.
Moonwind333
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I no longer trust TPTB at DOOL. After what Corday & Co. did to Drake TWICE and now to Dee who is to say who is next? He/they can profess the end of releases all they want but I don't believe it. Why should I invest any more of my time and emotions in a show that could do this again and again to other characters I love with no warning or apologies and once again see them treated like unneeded extras. No, I don't think I want to take a chance again. My love of Days started on day one, but probably won't last to the end, not when TPTB have so little respect for actors that have devoted half their lives to the show and so little respect for the audience that has supported it. And it is not just about two actors leaving, it is about HOW two actors were summarily dismissed.
mesagirl
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Yeah I totally get that. I guess for me, J&M were never the end all be all for me on Days. The only couple that truly resonated for me that strongly were Jack and Jennifer, and they left, and I still watched the show. I'm not saying that no longer watching cuz J&M are gone is wrong for some people to do, I'm just saying that their leaving shouldn't break the show, characters come and go on soaps.
Days suffers from things far worse than just losing two main characters, that affect the entire cast as well as most of the remaining viewers.... crappy s/l's and **** poor writing. Not even the amazing acting talents of some of the cast can save the show. The writing is just that bad.
In some ways, Dee and Drake could be viewed as lucky... getting out before their characters were totally destroyed by this cold mess called Days of Our Lives.
To read the rest of the postings on the topic please go to http://boards.nbc.com/nbc/index.php?showtopic=813725&st=0
The NBC boards contain a cross section of the viewers; they come from all genders, ages, ethics and educational backgrounds. It is their voices that need to be heard.
The following quotes are from the NBC fan board.
DOOLFr33k
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I also feel that letting Drake and Diedre go was a HUGE mistake by TPTB but I will still watch the show to support the veterans that are still on the show.
What so many of you "I'm not gonna watch Days ever again"-ers aren't thinking about is that if you don't watch Days, you will be putting all the other vets out of a job as well by letting the show get cancelled! I personally will not support that.
I really hope that with Drake and Diedre gone it will make more room for Steve and Kayla to have a major storyline of their own.
Hartleyfan
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Joined: 14-January 07
From: Ready to leave DOOL with Drake and Deidre
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I completly understand,but I am showing my devotion and loyalty to Drake and Dee and I refuse to continue watching a show that treats fans and actors like a pile of sh**.
gingerp
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Steve and Kayla have had more than one big storyline since they returned. Sorry, but I will never support this show again. I don't care if it stays on the air or is cancelled.
DrakeDBEST
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From: Canada
Member No.: 276,726
My all-time favorite actor had his role terminated after 23 CONSECUTIVE years on DAYS even though he NEVER said once that he wanted to leave the show. Drake wanted to stay with the show until it went off the air but it didn't matter to TPTB. I'll never support the show again that did this to him so as of today, I'm done with DAYS. I'm sorry to the vets left behind because IMO they're in for rough times ahead.
StevePatchFan
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Member No.: 282,485
I think Drake and Deidre will be back, mark my words.
melly123
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Member No.: 248,866
I agree..it will be just like the last time when they "killed off" John. I think they like when they get viewers in a big uproar. I'll still be watching.
Theresa_Chaze
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There will be nothing to come back to. Even if Days does last more than a couple of month, both Dee and Drake have enough fans that any show who picked them up would get a big boost in the ratings. Rumor has it GH is courting Dee. It's also rumored that Drake wants to go into producing. Once they move on, they aren't coming back, especially they way were treated.
If you believe Corday when he said they would be back, I got a bridge for you. It doesn't go any where, so I'll give you a good deal on the purchase price.
As for thinking of the other vets, they aren't being treated any better than Dee or Drake. It's just a matter of time before their air time goes down to zero and they are off the show in the same way. It a simple race to what happens first. The cancellation or the next vet firing
JarlenaFan
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I love so many vets on the show, but even with my love of John and Marlena the stories have been hard to watch this year. I don't have the heart or energy to stick around and see what they can do to Hope, Steve, Tony, Anna, Bo, etc.
Mia_Devlin
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The problem is why should anyone watch if the show no longer entertains them? I can't find a single storyline happening right now that actually entertains me. It has less to do with the characters then he writing. How about TPTB try and gain fans by 1) writing an entertaining show that actually makes sense and gives the fans a reason to want to watch? 2) How about writing for the characters we have known and loved for years and staying true to those characters rich histories? This show could be so much more then it is. They have talented actors but the writing they are given well it stinks to high heaven and no one should have to watch that unless they enjoy torturing themselves. It isn't the fans responsibility to keep this show on the air it is Corday and Higley's responsibility and one doesn't seem to give a damn and they other can't write worth a damn.
Aeb_2308
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That is true that they should rely on history and a lot of Fan fic writers could do a better job but I will continue watching my favorite Charactors and hope that someday the writing might improve. You can't force people to watch or not watch a show. If people are not entertained by the show than they should not watch it.
I hope that Steve and Kayla get a good story now that John and Marlana are gone.
Jiggs
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Well, I am not a fan of Steve and Kayla, and I don't believe in watching a show I am no longer invested in nor care about. It's suppose to be entertainment, which is a selfish act. I don't watch shows that I don't like. I don't owe Days of Our Lives anything, nor the remaining vets.
mesagirl
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My thoughts are that although I understand this loyalty some have to just two characters in a huge ensemble cast, that we need to remember that there would be no "Dee and Drake" if it weren't for Days in the first place.
Days was around a long time before the characters of Marlena and then John were introduced. There is more to Days than just John and Marlena.
When I finally stop watching this show(which is fast approaching I fear), that I've watched for the past quarter of a century I might add, it won't be because two actors got fired because of a very volatile financial climate. It will be because the story lines suck, the writing sucks, etc. Which unfortunately to me, is what has happened.
Watching Days for me the past few months, years almost, has become a chore, a sense of obligation. There is no longer the anticipation that used to come with watching this show. There is no one left to root for, no one to identify with, no character that is interesting enough to make me want to tune in to find out what happens to them. That is the fault of the writers, producers and casting directors.
Where are the epic story lines? Why do people fall in love at the drop of a hat now, instead of letting the story build slowly, so the viewers can be screaming in their living room... just kiss already! Where is the good vs evil story lines? Days is now a blur of characters that walk around with no meaning, no agenda, no story line. Some prop other characters, some just bed hop, some are fading in to the woodwork. Too many s/l's have started and yet have never gone anywhere.... we get a middle that had no beginning, and never sees an end.
Days, like Mia says, has hardly any entertainment value left to it. It's been gone a long time now, well before Dee and Drake were let go, well before Days turned in to an afterschool special.
There's just nothing special left to this soap anymore. It's all been sucked out by the poor s/l's and crappy writing.
Sorry, had to vent there. I'm done heh.
Jiggs
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Mesagirl, I used to enjoy the whole show... over the years that changed until all I cared about anymore was J&M. Of course there is more to Days than J&M, but not for me. I think for many, letting go of D&D is just the last straw.
Moonwind333
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I no longer trust TPTB at DOOL. After what Corday & Co. did to Drake TWICE and now to Dee who is to say who is next? He/they can profess the end of releases all they want but I don't believe it. Why should I invest any more of my time and emotions in a show that could do this again and again to other characters I love with no warning or apologies and once again see them treated like unneeded extras. No, I don't think I want to take a chance again. My love of Days started on day one, but probably won't last to the end, not when TPTB have so little respect for actors that have devoted half their lives to the show and so little respect for the audience that has supported it. And it is not just about two actors leaving, it is about HOW two actors were summarily dismissed.
mesagirl
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Yeah I totally get that. I guess for me, J&M were never the end all be all for me on Days. The only couple that truly resonated for me that strongly were Jack and Jennifer, and they left, and I still watched the show. I'm not saying that no longer watching cuz J&M are gone is wrong for some people to do, I'm just saying that their leaving shouldn't break the show, characters come and go on soaps.
Days suffers from things far worse than just losing two main characters, that affect the entire cast as well as most of the remaining viewers.... crappy s/l's and **** poor writing. Not even the amazing acting talents of some of the cast can save the show. The writing is just that bad.
In some ways, Dee and Drake could be viewed as lucky... getting out before their characters were totally destroyed by this cold mess called Days of Our Lives.
To read the rest of the postings on the topic please go to http://boards.nbc.com/nbc/index.php?showtopic=813725&st=0
The NBC boards contain a cross section of the viewers; they come from all genders, ages, ethics and educational backgrounds. It is their voices that need to be heard.
Friday, January 23, 2009
Jeffrey Immelt, Jeffrey Zucker, Michael Lynton, Ken Corday
Ken Corday
Gary Tomlin
Dena Higley
Corday Productions
818-840-4968
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Many writers see themselves as God-almighty when it comes to the projects they work on. They control the motivation, the actions and the outcome from the first page to the last. In novels, this is true, but only if there is a sole author. When it comes to film and television, every project is a collaborative effort.
Writers who step into an existing show need to play catch up. No matter how much outside research she or he does, the actor who has lived in the role will be the best asset the writer can have. However, the reverse is also true. A new writer can breathe fresh air into a show, giving it new life and inspiration. By bringing in a new perspective, the writer can give new twists to old plots and help the actors develop additional depth to their characters by opening new challenges. There needs to be a balance between the past and the future in order for the show to stay imaginative and original from episode to episode--year to year. As long as a show remains balance by being inventive, while honoring its history and keeping the egos in check, it will be able to keep its fan base happy; thereby continuing its success
Betty Corday and Irna Philips created a show that was based on romance, suspense, drama and comedy. They valued the creative effort of both the cast and crew. Betty's motto, "Don't lie to the fans; Respect your talent" was one of the main pillars that made Days an icon in television history, as was Irna's steadfast determination to create the best show possible. These two women created a genre by not accepting less than the best; they bucked the system and convinced the networks to see it their way. Not only were they were able to invent a financially profitable product that lasted for decades, but they also did so in such away that the fans stayed loyal from generation to generation.
In the past two years, you have managed to destroy everything they created. You have turned Days into nothing more than soft porn. The fans didn't just leave; you drove them away with the endless triangles, lack of real story telling, and the gutting of the established characters. Instead of focusing on the veteran actors and established characters, you created new characters that were poor written. Most high school plays are not only better produced, but also have higher quality of talent than the new actors you have brought in. Let's face it your writing staff couldn't write themselves out of wet paper bag with Freddy Krueger's help.
Like most soap fans, I started watching because of my mother and grandmother. When Dark Shadows was cancelled, she switched to Days and Another World. Even when I worked at an ABC affiliate, I would record and watch both shows. When NBC cancelled Another World, I stopped watching NBC except for Days. The firing of Dee and Drake was the last straw. Not only am I done with Days, but NBC as well. The only demographics the show still appeals to are teeny-boppers and high school drop outs that have pie in the eye dreams of marrying a millionaire even though they can’t put a coherent simple sentence together. Neither of which has the buying power to sustain or attract a profitable commercial sponsorship. You have tossed away viewers who have been loyal for decades in favor of those who are insistent and unreliable as their whims change from moment to moment--fad to fad.
When Days is cancelled in a couple of months, I will take comfort in the fact that Corday, Tomlin and Higley will be forever be remembered for the destruction of a beloved icon. Only a total moron would hired them after the hack job they did on a viable profit show.
Theresa Chaze
Gary Tomlin
Dena Higley
Corday Productions
818-840-4968
NBCUNI.COM FEEDBACK
100 Universal City Plaza
Universal City, CA 91608
212-664-4085
Sony Pictures Entertainment
12102 West Washington Blvd
Culver City, CA 90232-3195
(310) 244-2626
Many writers see themselves as God-almighty when it comes to the projects they work on. They control the motivation, the actions and the outcome from the first page to the last. In novels, this is true, but only if there is a sole author. When it comes to film and television, every project is a collaborative effort.
Writers who step into an existing show need to play catch up. No matter how much outside research she or he does, the actor who has lived in the role will be the best asset the writer can have. However, the reverse is also true. A new writer can breathe fresh air into a show, giving it new life and inspiration. By bringing in a new perspective, the writer can give new twists to old plots and help the actors develop additional depth to their characters by opening new challenges. There needs to be a balance between the past and the future in order for the show to stay imaginative and original from episode to episode--year to year. As long as a show remains balance by being inventive, while honoring its history and keeping the egos in check, it will be able to keep its fan base happy; thereby continuing its success
Betty Corday and Irna Philips created a show that was based on romance, suspense, drama and comedy. They valued the creative effort of both the cast and crew. Betty's motto, "Don't lie to the fans; Respect your talent" was one of the main pillars that made Days an icon in television history, as was Irna's steadfast determination to create the best show possible. These two women created a genre by not accepting less than the best; they bucked the system and convinced the networks to see it their way. Not only were they were able to invent a financially profitable product that lasted for decades, but they also did so in such away that the fans stayed loyal from generation to generation.
In the past two years, you have managed to destroy everything they created. You have turned Days into nothing more than soft porn. The fans didn't just leave; you drove them away with the endless triangles, lack of real story telling, and the gutting of the established characters. Instead of focusing on the veteran actors and established characters, you created new characters that were poor written. Most high school plays are not only better produced, but also have higher quality of talent than the new actors you have brought in. Let's face it your writing staff couldn't write themselves out of wet paper bag with Freddy Krueger's help.
Like most soap fans, I started watching because of my mother and grandmother. When Dark Shadows was cancelled, she switched to Days and Another World. Even when I worked at an ABC affiliate, I would record and watch both shows. When NBC cancelled Another World, I stopped watching NBC except for Days. The firing of Dee and Drake was the last straw. Not only am I done with Days, but NBC as well. The only demographics the show still appeals to are teeny-boppers and high school drop outs that have pie in the eye dreams of marrying a millionaire even though they can’t put a coherent simple sentence together. Neither of which has the buying power to sustain or attract a profitable commercial sponsorship. You have tossed away viewers who have been loyal for decades in favor of those who are insistent and unreliable as their whims change from moment to moment--fad to fad.
When Days is cancelled in a couple of months, I will take comfort in the fact that Corday, Tomlin and Higley will be forever be remembered for the destruction of a beloved icon. Only a total moron would hired them after the hack job they did on a viable profit show.
Theresa Chaze
Saturday, January 10, 2009
Fax Campaign to Save Days of Our Lives
As I previously posted there is a campaign to protest the firing of Dee and Drake. Started by Drake_Cake on the sony board, the idea is to fax protests 1/23/09 stating that "I just watched Days for the last time. If we could get everyone to participate then he could physically see how many people are going to be tuning out because of his decision. If you could share this with your J&M and friends I would appreciate it. I would love to hit Corday hard one more time. You can fax for free at http://faxzero.com/ "
One thing else to remember, no matter how angry or disappointed you are--be respectful and accurate. If you come across as out of control or illiterate, you will be discounted or ignored. However, if you concise with you wording, you will be taken seriously or at least more so than if you call Corday every nasty adult word you know--he may deserve it and it might feel good but it won't get you want you want. Tell them why you liked the both the couple and show. If you have watched for a long time, add that in. End by asking for the changes that you want. Remember to also include your full name and contact information--at least a phone number. It'll show the diversity of the complaints and prove that there isn't just a few with over active fax machines.
Corday Productions Fax number
818)840-4968
Production phone number: 818-295-2820
Sony Pictures owns the rights to Days
Michael Lynton
Chairman & CEO, Sony Pictures Entertainment
Amy Pascal
Co-Chairman, Sony Pictures Entertainment
Sony Pictures Entertainment
12102 West Washington Blvd
Culver City, CA 90232-3195
Phone: (310) 244-4000
Fax: (310) 244-2626
another phone line: 310-244-5722
NBC
NBCUNI.COM FEEDBACK
100 Universal City Plaza
Universal City, CA 91608
The GE Building at Rockefeller Plaza is NBC's corporate headquarters\
Phone: 212-664-4444. Fax: 212-664-4085
GE information
Jeffrey Immelt, CEO
General Electric Company
3135 Easton Turnpike
Fairfield, CT 06828
(203) 373-2211
I couldn't find a fax number, but I have yet to look very hard. If someone has it please post it.
One thing else to remember, no matter how angry or disappointed you are--be respectful and accurate. If you come across as out of control or illiterate, you will be discounted or ignored. However, if you concise with you wording, you will be taken seriously or at least more so than if you call Corday every nasty adult word you know--he may deserve it and it might feel good but it won't get you want you want. Tell them why you liked the both the couple and show. If you have watched for a long time, add that in. End by asking for the changes that you want. Remember to also include your full name and contact information--at least a phone number. It'll show the diversity of the complaints and prove that there isn't just a few with over active fax machines.
Corday Productions Fax number
818)840-4968
Production phone number: 818-295-2820
Sony Pictures owns the rights to Days
Michael Lynton
Chairman & CEO, Sony Pictures Entertainment
Amy Pascal
Co-Chairman, Sony Pictures Entertainment
Sony Pictures Entertainment
12102 West Washington Blvd
Culver City, CA 90232-3195
Phone: (310) 244-4000
Fax: (310) 244-2626
another phone line: 310-244-5722
NBC
NBCUNI.COM FEEDBACK
100 Universal City Plaza
Universal City, CA 91608
The GE Building at Rockefeller Plaza is NBC's corporate headquarters\
Phone: 212-664-4444. Fax: 212-664-4085
GE information
Jeffrey Immelt, CEO
General Electric Company
3135 Easton Turnpike
Fairfield, CT 06828
(203) 373-2211
I couldn't find a fax number, but I have yet to look very hard. If someone has it please post it.
Tuesday, January 6, 2009
Days of Our Lives: What the NBC Board Fans think.
The NBC Days of Our Lives fan board contains a cross section of the fan base. I thought it would be interesting to share what is being said about Days with others who care about the show. Below are a couple of threads that were started by different people. They copied and pasted in full without edits.
The end of DAYS for me-started by Purpur
Purpur
I have been a faithful viewer of DOOL since November 16, 1966. There were lapses of five-month intervals twice a year for several years while I was in school. However, when I could watch the show, I did. Every so often, I would get discouraged about the show when the writing was particularly inane and the viewers' intelligence insulted more than usual. Still, I made excuses for the writers and producers and kept watching.
Now, with the new developments, it has come time to part ways. I am disappointed and disgusted that "old-time warriors" are to be pushed aside for young "twinkies" and a more "hip" story. The money they could have saved by better writing and decision making, by not hiring superfluous actors and not writing inconsequential storylines, would surely have paid the salaries of the veteran actors. For decades, the veterans like Alice and Tom, Julie and Doug have kept the story together and it was still interesting and engaging to watch DOOL. All that is now water under the bridge.
I feel for the newly hired young actors as well as for veterans like Alison Sweeney, et al. The new young actors surely were delighted to finally have landed a role to support themselves. The veterans are probably constantly worried over job security. I truly have compassion for them. It is not fair to them. But then, it is not fair to the viewer either. I know actors come and go and sometimes it is necessary to let someone go, but this usually has much less to do with the actors themselves than it does with the writing.
I realize that conflict is what keeps a story going. I wouldn't presume to be so conceited as to proclaim that I could write a better story line. But then, I don't get paid for this kind of work either. If one gets paid for a certain job, then it is his/her responsibility to deliver. That goes for producers of a show as well. They make millions on programs, but delivery of DOOL has not been up to par for some time now.
So, here is my proclamation: As of today, DOOL has lost one viewer. This probably means diddley-squat to those in charge, but it gives me the satisfaction that I have exercised my right to not support a show that is written in an inferior manner and that treats its actors like easily and arbitrarily replaceable commodities. From the NBC Boards I understand that many fans, whether they be Sami and EJ fans (as I was) or EJ and Nicole fans or Sami and Rafe die-hards, seem to be in an unhappy frame of mind regarding DOOL. Perhaps the producers and writers should pay heed.
Thank you for having given me the opportunity to speak my mind.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.
Devil Doll
Sorry to hear your leaving purpur but I can understand it because I know had EJ been paired back up with Sami I would be doing the same thing....so I guess my staying cancels out your leaving or the other way around if writers suddenly change the storyline. I guess I don't share your thoughts on the writing right now since I think in the last few months its improved a great deal and is back to holding peoples attention at least. I know getting past the vets not being on as much as you were used to is also disappointing, but I think every generation has had to go thru that as the characters that were once so popular and loved are pushed to the back burner to make room for younger less experienced actors...but I don't hold DOOL personally responsible for that because its just the way its always gone, not just on this show but others as well. I hope you'll reconsider and think about staying because this show needs all the support it can get now and who knows maybe someday you might wanna tune back in after taking a break from it and it would be a shame if it was no longer there when you did.
Daisy 132
Sorry to hear that, Purpur, but I do understand. I'm hardly watching anymore either, and many of us have left already. I don't care about supporting the show. It's a disaster, as far as I'm concerned. None of the stories are interesting to me, some of them absurd. Anyways, put the extra hour in the day to good use.
Tcpdesigns
I think it is interesting that so many different fan bases are jumping ship. For once it isn't about "if my favourite couple isn't together I'm not watching". It is about the overall quality of the show. We could all handle our favourite couple leaving if the show had anything else to fall back on. It doesn't.
Aeb_2308
I am sorry to her that you are leaving. I only watch a few times everyweek myseff I will forget to watch my tapes and watch some of the stuff I have never seen on youtube.
EjamiLove18
I understand and agree with you the writing seems to have gotten arbitrary and terrible but I gotta stay for my man James Scott! and my girls Allison and Molly.
i hope it gets better -cuz ill keep complaining if it doesn't! lol but I love the actors and dool has been one of the consistant things in my life since watching it 12 years ago with my mom. but merry christmas to you as well
Wicked Game
I quit watching almost 3 weeks ago. I really don't miss it, especially after I come here and read that I am not really missing all that much. Who is to say if I come back in the future, but as long as HIGLEY is writing schlock it will be this way.
I too have been watching since I was 12. I think that was even before Doug and Addie.
Caged Bird
I've been watching the show for twenty-five years, and I am truly disappointed in the turn it has taken. I don't even know why I continue to watch. The last year has been one of the most boring since I've been watching.
Dayzer
Sorry to hear you are disappointed in the show. I have been a fan of Days for over 25 yrs as well, so I feel your pain. DOOL was so good back in the day. In fact I was just watching old episodes on youtube of Jack and Jennifer *sigh* they were so cute. It seems like the writers don't get it. Where is the romance? Who wants to watch the sleaze we are being subjected to everyday? Not me...I have about twenty shows backed up on Tivo and I have no desire to watch them.
NoleDays
This is an excellent post, and I wish TIIC could see it. I agree with everything you said. However, I've watched since 1965, when I was 9 years old, and it's a part of my life. It's the first thing I do when I get home from work. I watch the Days I recorded that day and chill. It's comfort food...of course I'm getting quite a bit of indigestion from this comfort food lately.
I'll keep watching at least until the last vet and semi-vet (Sami, etc.) are off the show. (And I'll fast-forward through the cr@p.) When it has totally become the serialized afterschool special I suspect they are going toward, then I will no longer watch either. It will be sad to have such a big part of my life gone, but then, it will no longer be the Days I grew up loving.
Wicked Game
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Dool crazy
I'm like you and will not give up the show. I have watched from the first day 43 years ago and can not imagine a day without my Days. Your right in calling it comfort food. LOL I will not allow Corday or anyone to drive me off and will continue to support the veteran actors we have with the show. I don't care a whif about this younger bunch except for Max. I find it so sad to see the deplorable state the show is in now. It was so wonderful and the stories were so exciting and wonderful. I could hardly wait for the next days show. Talk about going from the top of the world to the bottom of the tank. I still hope in my heart that things will change. Wouldn't that be grand?
Windy Lindy 48
I've watched Days since 1969 and I agree with you. I'm getting very discouraged with the story line. Maybe they should fire poor writers and keep the good actors. The story lines have become boring, boring, boring.
The youngsters they've hired aren't nearly as interesting as the oldies but goodies.
Sofasu
I'm so sad to hear you're leaving us but I totally understand...the young acting is
definitely subpar and there are no longer s/ls that you can't miss for several days
and still know what's up. As another poster said, I too am appalled at the sleaze
they are purporting as romance. There is no wholesomeness to this show what-
so ever. I have never ff'd through so many "kissing" scenes in my life. It seems
like everything is upsidedown....nothing is the way it should be.....there are no
values, no goodness.....sometimes I think this is more like soft porn for the
teenagers to watch. They definitely need some fresh ideas - enough of all the
copycat s/ls, also, they need to listen to hear what the viewing audience wants to see.
Don't they ever have anyone read this board to find out how disgusting it all is
now? Recently the boards have reached an alltime low as well. It used to be fun
to exchange ideas with everyone, but not anymore. I am so close to giving up but
then the positive side of me says it has to change - it can't stay the way it is....
but then again, I am probably wrong.
Daisy132
No, you're not wrong. I completely agree with everything you've said, and actually, after reading this post I wonder why I'm watching the show myself.
I think that if we tune in again in about six months, we wouldn't have missed very much. I'm thinking of doing that, and maybe ask one of the mods, as I did before, to suspend me from this addictive board for a while to keep me from posting so much.
Smiley Cat
As soon as Marlena leaves, I'll be tuning in another show and starting to forget all about Days, too.
Shaena30
To me it seems like the worse Nicole's storyline is the meaner we all get, we want it to end, the Ej/ Nicole (I'm sorry but Ecole sounds like a germ) people want it to go on and have EJ and Nicole live happily ever after when we all know that the signs are all pointing to a EJ and Sami pairing, so out of our frustrations we all come here and fight with each other about who likes Nicole and Sami and who hates them. It's makin me crazy.....lol
Mommapry
I know that you are not the only one to make this comment, but it bothers me that so many people seem to be picking on the new young actors. If the writing stinks, is it the actors fault? It is a little hard to be an interesting actor with boring writing. I think we should give the younger actors the benefit of the doubt until they get some sort of story line. Who knows if Melanie is a good actor or not, all the writers have her doing is whining!
GimmiMoreEJami
If I remember back, the previous young hipsters were Bo, Hope, Marlena, Roman, Jack, Jen, Kayla & Steve and they shoved Marie, Neil, Don, Liz, Laura and Bill out the door when they arrived.
I don't think we have the writing staff with those same skills that once made soaps great and probably never will again.
Cook fan
I'm glad that someone pointed this out. I don't necessarily agree with everything that is going on with DAYS right now. I've seen lots of my favorites come/go. I can remember how devastated I was when they axed Matt Ashford not once but twice. I didn't think I'd have the heart to keep watching. But, I've been a faithful viewer for 21 years now. You just have to roll with the punches. You have to have vets. But, the door also must be open for new arrivals. That's how the show carries on. Julie/Doug were all the rage back in the 60's. Then, John/Marlena/Bo/Hope/Steve/Kayla/etc. all rolled in and Julie/Doug/Maggie/Mickey all took a backseat to the trials/relationships of these newbies. Unfortunately, the day has arrived where new generations/characters have to come on board. We wouldn't have ever had Carly/Lawrence/Vivian/Billie/EJ/Sami/Nicole/Phillip/Brady if we had just tried to hang onto the past. You must have the new as well as the old.
The end of DAYS for me-started by Purpur
Purpur
I have been a faithful viewer of DOOL since November 16, 1966. There were lapses of five-month intervals twice a year for several years while I was in school. However, when I could watch the show, I did. Every so often, I would get discouraged about the show when the writing was particularly inane and the viewers' intelligence insulted more than usual. Still, I made excuses for the writers and producers and kept watching.
Now, with the new developments, it has come time to part ways. I am disappointed and disgusted that "old-time warriors" are to be pushed aside for young "twinkies" and a more "hip" story. The money they could have saved by better writing and decision making, by not hiring superfluous actors and not writing inconsequential storylines, would surely have paid the salaries of the veteran actors. For decades, the veterans like Alice and Tom, Julie and Doug have kept the story together and it was still interesting and engaging to watch DOOL. All that is now water under the bridge.
I feel for the newly hired young actors as well as for veterans like Alison Sweeney, et al. The new young actors surely were delighted to finally have landed a role to support themselves. The veterans are probably constantly worried over job security. I truly have compassion for them. It is not fair to them. But then, it is not fair to the viewer either. I know actors come and go and sometimes it is necessary to let someone go, but this usually has much less to do with the actors themselves than it does with the writing.
I realize that conflict is what keeps a story going. I wouldn't presume to be so conceited as to proclaim that I could write a better story line. But then, I don't get paid for this kind of work either. If one gets paid for a certain job, then it is his/her responsibility to deliver. That goes for producers of a show as well. They make millions on programs, but delivery of DOOL has not been up to par for some time now.
So, here is my proclamation: As of today, DOOL has lost one viewer. This probably means diddley-squat to those in charge, but it gives me the satisfaction that I have exercised my right to not support a show that is written in an inferior manner and that treats its actors like easily and arbitrarily replaceable commodities. From the NBC Boards I understand that many fans, whether they be Sami and EJ fans (as I was) or EJ and Nicole fans or Sami and Rafe die-hards, seem to be in an unhappy frame of mind regarding DOOL. Perhaps the producers and writers should pay heed.
Thank you for having given me the opportunity to speak my mind.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.
Devil Doll
Sorry to hear your leaving purpur but I can understand it because I know had EJ been paired back up with Sami I would be doing the same thing....so I guess my staying cancels out your leaving or the other way around if writers suddenly change the storyline. I guess I don't share your thoughts on the writing right now since I think in the last few months its improved a great deal and is back to holding peoples attention at least. I know getting past the vets not being on as much as you were used to is also disappointing, but I think every generation has had to go thru that as the characters that were once so popular and loved are pushed to the back burner to make room for younger less experienced actors...but I don't hold DOOL personally responsible for that because its just the way its always gone, not just on this show but others as well. I hope you'll reconsider and think about staying because this show needs all the support it can get now and who knows maybe someday you might wanna tune back in after taking a break from it and it would be a shame if it was no longer there when you did.
Daisy 132
Sorry to hear that, Purpur, but I do understand. I'm hardly watching anymore either, and many of us have left already. I don't care about supporting the show. It's a disaster, as far as I'm concerned. None of the stories are interesting to me, some of them absurd. Anyways, put the extra hour in the day to good use.
Tcpdesigns
I think it is interesting that so many different fan bases are jumping ship. For once it isn't about "if my favourite couple isn't together I'm not watching". It is about the overall quality of the show. We could all handle our favourite couple leaving if the show had anything else to fall back on. It doesn't.
Aeb_2308
I am sorry to her that you are leaving. I only watch a few times everyweek myseff I will forget to watch my tapes and watch some of the stuff I have never seen on youtube.
EjamiLove18
I understand and agree with you the writing seems to have gotten arbitrary and terrible but I gotta stay for my man James Scott! and my girls Allison and Molly.
i hope it gets better -cuz ill keep complaining if it doesn't! lol but I love the actors and dool has been one of the consistant things in my life since watching it 12 years ago with my mom. but merry christmas to you as well
Wicked Game
I quit watching almost 3 weeks ago. I really don't miss it, especially after I come here and read that I am not really missing all that much. Who is to say if I come back in the future, but as long as HIGLEY is writing schlock it will be this way.
I too have been watching since I was 12. I think that was even before Doug and Addie.
Caged Bird
I've been watching the show for twenty-five years, and I am truly disappointed in the turn it has taken. I don't even know why I continue to watch. The last year has been one of the most boring since I've been watching.
Dayzer
Sorry to hear you are disappointed in the show. I have been a fan of Days for over 25 yrs as well, so I feel your pain. DOOL was so good back in the day. In fact I was just watching old episodes on youtube of Jack and Jennifer *sigh* they were so cute. It seems like the writers don't get it. Where is the romance? Who wants to watch the sleaze we are being subjected to everyday? Not me...I have about twenty shows backed up on Tivo and I have no desire to watch them.
NoleDays
This is an excellent post, and I wish TIIC could see it. I agree with everything you said. However, I've watched since 1965, when I was 9 years old, and it's a part of my life. It's the first thing I do when I get home from work. I watch the Days I recorded that day and chill. It's comfort food...of course I'm getting quite a bit of indigestion from this comfort food lately.
I'll keep watching at least until the last vet and semi-vet (Sami, etc.) are off the show. (And I'll fast-forward through the cr@p.) When it has totally become the serialized afterschool special I suspect they are going toward, then I will no longer watch either. It will be sad to have such a big part of my life gone, but then, it will no longer be the Days I grew up loving.
Wicked Game
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Dool crazy
I'm like you and will not give up the show. I have watched from the first day 43 years ago and can not imagine a day without my Days. Your right in calling it comfort food. LOL I will not allow Corday or anyone to drive me off and will continue to support the veteran actors we have with the show. I don't care a whif about this younger bunch except for Max. I find it so sad to see the deplorable state the show is in now. It was so wonderful and the stories were so exciting and wonderful. I could hardly wait for the next days show. Talk about going from the top of the world to the bottom of the tank. I still hope in my heart that things will change. Wouldn't that be grand?
Windy Lindy 48
I've watched Days since 1969 and I agree with you. I'm getting very discouraged with the story line. Maybe they should fire poor writers and keep the good actors. The story lines have become boring, boring, boring.
The youngsters they've hired aren't nearly as interesting as the oldies but goodies.
Sofasu
I'm so sad to hear you're leaving us but I totally understand...the young acting is
definitely subpar and there are no longer s/ls that you can't miss for several days
and still know what's up. As another poster said, I too am appalled at the sleaze
they are purporting as romance. There is no wholesomeness to this show what-
so ever. I have never ff'd through so many "kissing" scenes in my life. It seems
like everything is upsidedown....nothing is the way it should be.....there are no
values, no goodness.....sometimes I think this is more like soft porn for the
teenagers to watch. They definitely need some fresh ideas - enough of all the
copycat s/ls, also, they need to listen to hear what the viewing audience wants to see.
Don't they ever have anyone read this board to find out how disgusting it all is
now? Recently the boards have reached an alltime low as well. It used to be fun
to exchange ideas with everyone, but not anymore. I am so close to giving up but
then the positive side of me says it has to change - it can't stay the way it is....
but then again, I am probably wrong.
Daisy132
No, you're not wrong. I completely agree with everything you've said, and actually, after reading this post I wonder why I'm watching the show myself.
I think that if we tune in again in about six months, we wouldn't have missed very much. I'm thinking of doing that, and maybe ask one of the mods, as I did before, to suspend me from this addictive board for a while to keep me from posting so much.
Smiley Cat
As soon as Marlena leaves, I'll be tuning in another show and starting to forget all about Days, too.
Shaena30
To me it seems like the worse Nicole's storyline is the meaner we all get, we want it to end, the Ej/ Nicole (I'm sorry but Ecole sounds like a germ) people want it to go on and have EJ and Nicole live happily ever after when we all know that the signs are all pointing to a EJ and Sami pairing, so out of our frustrations we all come here and fight with each other about who likes Nicole and Sami and who hates them. It's makin me crazy.....lol
Mommapry
I know that you are not the only one to make this comment, but it bothers me that so many people seem to be picking on the new young actors. If the writing stinks, is it the actors fault? It is a little hard to be an interesting actor with boring writing. I think we should give the younger actors the benefit of the doubt until they get some sort of story line. Who knows if Melanie is a good actor or not, all the writers have her doing is whining!
GimmiMoreEJami
If I remember back, the previous young hipsters were Bo, Hope, Marlena, Roman, Jack, Jen, Kayla & Steve and they shoved Marie, Neil, Don, Liz, Laura and Bill out the door when they arrived.
I don't think we have the writing staff with those same skills that once made soaps great and probably never will again.
Cook fan
I'm glad that someone pointed this out. I don't necessarily agree with everything that is going on with DAYS right now. I've seen lots of my favorites come/go. I can remember how devastated I was when they axed Matt Ashford not once but twice. I didn't think I'd have the heart to keep watching. But, I've been a faithful viewer for 21 years now. You just have to roll with the punches. You have to have vets. But, the door also must be open for new arrivals. That's how the show carries on. Julie/Doug were all the rage back in the 60's. Then, John/Marlena/Bo/Hope/Steve/Kayla/etc. all rolled in and Julie/Doug/Maggie/Mickey all took a backseat to the trials/relationships of these newbies. Unfortunately, the day has arrived where new generations/characters have to come on board. We wouldn't have ever had Carly/Lawrence/Vivian/Billie/EJ/Sami/Nicole/Phillip/Brady if we had just tried to hang onto the past. You must have the new as well as the old.
Saturday, December 27, 2008
An Opportunity for Days of Our Lives Fans to Speak Out
With the firing of Days most popular actors and the decay in the storylines, I want to give the fans of Days an opportunity to speak out. What would you like to say to Ken Corday or Dena Higley? What would you like to tell Dee and Drake? Call in and send a message to them or anyone involved with the show. Join me on my radio show 2pm Eastern at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/theresachaze Monday December 29.
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Friday, December 5, 2008
Days of Our Lives: A Letter From a Fan to Dena Higley
This letter was originally posted on the NBC Days of Our Lives Message Board. It has been reproduced with the permission of the author.
Dear Ms. Higley:
I realize that now the show has been renewed for 18 months, and not likely to be renewed again, that you feel that you can write whatever you want, consequences and for that matter fan bases be damned. And I also realize that it is impossible to make every fan base happy. But why do you insist on upsetting every single fan base, and further more the general audience? If you know what the general audience wants to see, why is it so hard for you to take a cue from them, and write in favor of their views? After all, a show is NOTHING without their fans!
Days of our lives as you well know has been on the air for over 40 years, and has a very dedicated audience. All we wish to do is watch a show (that many of us have watched since we were children) and escape reality for an hour and enjoy our soap. However, since you have taken the reigns, it's become increasingly harder for us to do that. The plot point writing and lack of, make that NO direction makes watching this show almost equivalent to a root canal (okay maybe that's taking it a little too far) but I digress.
My request is that you really consider what the audience is asking of you and make these next 18 months the best this show has ever seen! Because I have feeling we are not going to get another chance.
Thank you for your time,
Gina
Dear Ms. Higley:
I realize that now the show has been renewed for 18 months, and not likely to be renewed again, that you feel that you can write whatever you want, consequences and for that matter fan bases be damned. And I also realize that it is impossible to make every fan base happy. But why do you insist on upsetting every single fan base, and further more the general audience? If you know what the general audience wants to see, why is it so hard for you to take a cue from them, and write in favor of their views? After all, a show is NOTHING without their fans!
Days of our lives as you well know has been on the air for over 40 years, and has a very dedicated audience. All we wish to do is watch a show (that many of us have watched since we were children) and escape reality for an hour and enjoy our soap. However, since you have taken the reigns, it's become increasingly harder for us to do that. The plot point writing and lack of, make that NO direction makes watching this show almost equivalent to a root canal (okay maybe that's taking it a little too far) but I digress.
My request is that you really consider what the audience is asking of you and make these next 18 months the best this show has ever seen! Because I have feeling we are not going to get another chance.
Thank you for your time,
Gina
Saturday, November 22, 2008
Days of Our Lives: Why it will be Cancelled
Days of Our Lives: The Numbers Don't Lie
By
Theresa Chaze
Even though the ink isn’t even dry the new agreement, which renews Days of Our Lives until September 2010, there are already rumors that the soap is living on borrowed time. The non-traditional 18-month contract along with executive producer, Ken Corday, agreeing to make onscreen changes, including adjustments to the cast list, could herald the end of Days as the long-time fans’ wishes continue to be ignored.
Days was the top ranking soap for years, placing first or second in the overall standings until March 2007. With the disappearance of John Black (Drake Hogestyn), the attempted forced pairing of a rapist and victim, who's the daddy and the Colleen/Santo storylines offended many of the viewers. Their dissatisfaction was dramatically reflected in the ratings. While Days came into 2008 with a high of 2.7 and a low of 2.5, by April, the highest ranking was 2.1 with a low of 1.9.
Dena Higley officially joining the Days staff as the head writer in March 2008; however, it was reported that she was one of the scab writers who ghost wrote Days during the strike. Although she inherited rankings that ranged from 2.0 to 2.4, her writing style has only served hasten the drop in the rankings. Even though she was able to bring back both John Black and Stefano, her propensity to focus on romantic triangles and to only write for the characters or couples she likes gained her no favor with the viewers.
August 6, 2007 Corday Productions announced the Emmy award winning producer, Ed Scott, would be joining the Day of Our Lives team as co-executive producer. Ken Corday was quoted as saying, "Ed comes with more than 20 years experience with The Young and the Restless and brings a new, vibrant, creative energy and strength to this all-important position of leadership,"
Instead of working together to improve Days, Higley and Scott chose to ignore both the shows history and the fans favorite characters.. The Colleen/Santo story, although it had the potential of being a wonderfully romantic and suspenseful tale in its own right, was instead turned into a way of forcing the pairing of EJ and Sami down the viewers' throats. The DiMera Vendetta was not only another ploy to support Ejamie as the couple had been nicknamed, but it was also used to kill off Shawn Sr. and John Black. It also totally disregarded the show's history and characters' family backgrounds. The viewers expressed their displeasure as the ratings continued to drop.
In addition the veteran actors were pushed aside in favor of the younger generation; the campus rapist and the Sorority house was intended to attract younger viewers. Intention and reality were never on the same page. Instead of attracting younger viewers, the storyline drove away the loyal long-time fans. September, October and November registered the worse ratings of 2008 with September and October bottoming out at 1.8 while November did little better with 1.9. With the return of the vets, John Black as well as Tony and Anna DiMera, the ratings once again began to climb. January through April of 2008, Days gained .4, bringing it to a high of 2.4 and returning it to third place.
With the backstage conflicts between Scott and Higley spilling out not only on the set but out into rumor mill, the personality and professional conflicts between them came to a head when Higley reportedly quit, accusing Scott of rewriting her scripts and encouraging the actors to do the same. Corday convinced Higley to remain; Scott was fired. .
Gary Tomlin was chosen as Scott’s replacement. A soap opera veteran, Tomlin has worked as an actor, director, writer and producer. Again, Corday expressed his utmost confidence and faith in his new choice, promising that Tomlin‘s "...long successful history of being an actor's producer and a writer's producer to our cast and crew and I know the viewers will see the immediate results of this change for the better." However, months later that promise has yet to be fulfilled.
Except for a brief bump in the ratings that herald the return of Stefano, portrayed by Joseph Mascolo, the ratings remain flat and near the bottom of the list. Instead, leading the genre in ratings and awards, Days suddenly finds itself at the bottom with their highest rankings in 2008 equaling that of it’s lows in 2006. In the three months Tomlin has acted as the co-executive producer, Days’ ratings haven’t risen above a 2.0 and fourth place. From the two murder whodunits where no one cares who did or who died to the once again back burning vets in favor of new characters, the fans have had few kind words for either Higley or Tomlin.
Corday Productions seem to have difficulty learning from their past mistakes. With the soap on life support, Corday has chosen once again to shake up the cast by releasing popular actors, while adding younger talent. It has been recently rumored that Drake Hogestyn will be once again leaving the show along with Jay Kenneth Johnson. At the beginning of 2007 when Corday disregarded the fans wishes, Days fell from first to fourth (2.7 to 1.9) within four months; at this point, there is no place left to fall except off the air.
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By
Theresa Chaze
Even though the ink isn’t even dry the new agreement, which renews Days of Our Lives until September 2010, there are already rumors that the soap is living on borrowed time. The non-traditional 18-month contract along with executive producer, Ken Corday, agreeing to make onscreen changes, including adjustments to the cast list, could herald the end of Days as the long-time fans’ wishes continue to be ignored.
Days was the top ranking soap for years, placing first or second in the overall standings until March 2007. With the disappearance of John Black (Drake Hogestyn), the attempted forced pairing of a rapist and victim, who's the daddy and the Colleen/Santo storylines offended many of the viewers. Their dissatisfaction was dramatically reflected in the ratings. While Days came into 2008 with a high of 2.7 and a low of 2.5, by April, the highest ranking was 2.1 with a low of 1.9.
Dena Higley officially joining the Days staff as the head writer in March 2008; however, it was reported that she was one of the scab writers who ghost wrote Days during the strike. Although she inherited rankings that ranged from 2.0 to 2.4, her writing style has only served hasten the drop in the rankings. Even though she was able to bring back both John Black and Stefano, her propensity to focus on romantic triangles and to only write for the characters or couples she likes gained her no favor with the viewers.
August 6, 2007 Corday Productions announced the Emmy award winning producer, Ed Scott, would be joining the Day of Our Lives team as co-executive producer. Ken Corday was quoted as saying, "Ed comes with more than 20 years experience with The Young and the Restless and brings a new, vibrant, creative energy and strength to this all-important position of leadership,"
Instead of working together to improve Days, Higley and Scott chose to ignore both the shows history and the fans favorite characters.. The Colleen/Santo story, although it had the potential of being a wonderfully romantic and suspenseful tale in its own right, was instead turned into a way of forcing the pairing of EJ and Sami down the viewers' throats. The DiMera Vendetta was not only another ploy to support Ejamie as the couple had been nicknamed, but it was also used to kill off Shawn Sr. and John Black. It also totally disregarded the show's history and characters' family backgrounds. The viewers expressed their displeasure as the ratings continued to drop.
In addition the veteran actors were pushed aside in favor of the younger generation; the campus rapist and the Sorority house was intended to attract younger viewers. Intention and reality were never on the same page. Instead of attracting younger viewers, the storyline drove away the loyal long-time fans. September, October and November registered the worse ratings of 2008 with September and October bottoming out at 1.8 while November did little better with 1.9. With the return of the vets, John Black as well as Tony and Anna DiMera, the ratings once again began to climb. January through April of 2008, Days gained .4, bringing it to a high of 2.4 and returning it to third place.
With the backstage conflicts between Scott and Higley spilling out not only on the set but out into rumor mill, the personality and professional conflicts between them came to a head when Higley reportedly quit, accusing Scott of rewriting her scripts and encouraging the actors to do the same. Corday convinced Higley to remain; Scott was fired. .
Gary Tomlin was chosen as Scott’s replacement. A soap opera veteran, Tomlin has worked as an actor, director, writer and producer. Again, Corday expressed his utmost confidence and faith in his new choice, promising that Tomlin‘s "...long successful history of being an actor's producer and a writer's producer to our cast and crew and I know the viewers will see the immediate results of this change for the better." However, months later that promise has yet to be fulfilled.
Except for a brief bump in the ratings that herald the return of Stefano, portrayed by Joseph Mascolo, the ratings remain flat and near the bottom of the list. Instead, leading the genre in ratings and awards, Days suddenly finds itself at the bottom with their highest rankings in 2008 equaling that of it’s lows in 2006. In the three months Tomlin has acted as the co-executive producer, Days’ ratings haven’t risen above a 2.0 and fourth place. From the two murder whodunits where no one cares who did or who died to the once again back burning vets in favor of new characters, the fans have had few kind words for either Higley or Tomlin.
Corday Productions seem to have difficulty learning from their past mistakes. With the soap on life support, Corday has chosen once again to shake up the cast by releasing popular actors, while adding younger talent. It has been recently rumored that Drake Hogestyn will be once again leaving the show along with Jay Kenneth Johnson. At the beginning of 2007 when Corday disregarded the fans wishes, Days fell from first to fourth (2.7 to 1.9) within four months; at this point, there is no place left to fall except off the air.
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