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Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Days of Our Lives: Message to Ken Corday from Fans at the NBC Boards

Hartleyfan




http://daytimeroyaltyonline.com/topic/8105339/1/


"In desperate times, desperate measures are sometimes the worst things to resort to. What Guiding Light became was not a soap opera. It smacked of ESPN or the evening news and done without any homage to the creator of the show. It wasn't because of one inept person in the last year or two; the show ran its course."





What an a**,this coming from the guy who axed the biggest supercouple EVER (John and Marlena) and axed vet after vet. Every time he opens his mouth, something stupid comes out.''Done without any homage to the creator of the show'',well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black.This is all coming from a man who has turned his parents dream into a laughing stock and hired a woman who couldn't write a greating card if her life depended on it.Do me/us a favor Corday and SHUT UP.


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Sounds a little like the pot calling the kettle black to me...

Mr. Corday, meet Mr. Kettle.

Oh yeah...and you can kiss my a$$ while you're at it!


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Kenny crapped corn and I just don't care.
He and people like him are killing soaps and yet he states the obvious while doing the same. I can't believe the nerve of this big goof ball.

Earth to Kenny try watching your own show with out pushing the mute button for a minute please then feel freely to talk about Guiding Light.
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QUOTE (LaBellaDawna @ Apr 14 2009, 11:31 PM) *
Kenny crapped corn and I just don't care.
He and people like him are killing soaps and yet he states the obvious while doing the same. I can't believe the nerve of this big goof ball.

Earth to Kenny try watching your own show with out pushing the mute button for a minute please then feel freely to talk about Guiding Light.


Oh, honey...with a line like that, you should really join us in the Anti-room! I think you'd fit right in!


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QUOTE (Hartleyfan @ Apr 14 2009, 10:06 PM) *
http://daytimeroyaltyonline.com/topic/8105339/1/


"In desperate times, desperate measures are sometimes the worst things to resort to. [b]What Guiding Light became was not a soap opera. It smacked of ESPN or the evening news and done without any homage to the creator of the show. It wasn't because of one inept person in the last year or two; the show ran its course."[/b]


What an a**,this coming from the guy who axed the biggest supercouple EVER (John and Marlena) and axed vet after vet. Every time he opens his mouth, something stupid comes out.''Done without any homage to the creator of the show'',well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black.This is all coming from a man who has turned his parents dream into a laughing stock and hired a woman who couldn't write a greating card if her life depended on it.Do me/us a favor Corday and SHUT UP.


Is he serious with this?! What the hell does this man know about what a soap opera is anyway?! I can't believe he actually has the cajones to say this. Mr. Corday should very much be ashamed of himself.



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Oh wow! Did he really say that! Uhh...I wouldn't be talking like that Corday, DAYS isn't exactly Y & R! And is NOTHING like DAYS is supposed to be and what the creators (your parents) of DAYS had in mind for DAYS, what they created for DAYS. And DAYS is nothing like it used to be and what it was known for and legendarily known for throughout the soap world. That's been gone and destroyed a very long time ago.

I totally agree with what you said Hartleyfan. That was a bit much and totally un-neccessary to say. And a bunch of those actors, crew, and production have lost their jobs, their show...and you know DAYS isn't exactly top-of-the-notch-safe-from-cancellation! And the way the show is running and written nowadays and the fact that DAYS has tarnished and trashed its "Glory & Golden Days" due to writers doing recycled storylines, getting rid of SOME of their biggest vets [some of the vets are still there and being featured like: Ali Sweeney, Kristian A., Peter R., Joe M., Josh T., John A. Peggy M...and so forth, etc.!], writers who don't know DAYS, don't know the history of the show or what it is about, don't know the characters or their histories, and just only focused on angering fans, instead of pleasing them, and just focused on one character and actor only and all the time now, and OVERLY-DRAWN out stories that run waaayy too long with build that leads to nothing, nowhere, and to no proper pay-offs...NBC has been just itching to cancel DAYS! I'm sure NBC is sick of DAYS and their bull and trouble they've been causing and is just sick of dealing with it altogether...and are just inches away from cancelling it, if they're not careful!

I wouldn't be so quick to speak like that and so cocky like that! DAYS isn't exactly #1, isn't Y & R, isn't what it used to be, isn't blowing it out of the water, isn't the best soap show written or produced, and definitely isn't the best written or produced show or safest from cancellation show on television period. Might not need to be so cocky and rude when speaking like that about cancelled shows and such, in a genera that is generally DYING altogether and is getting much worst than getting better and is losing fans by the masses! Wouldn't be so quick to just speak like that so harshly and rudely DAYS. Whether is true or not...still a bit harsh and rude, for a genera that DAYS is in as well, and is also on that cancellation list and has been many times! And has even lost money/budgets and important characters and actors because DAYS is struggling! DAYS...you can't be so quick to talk like that, you're not exactly Y & R or Grey's Anatomy or Academy Award material or shows or something in writing, production, talent, storytelling, or ratings! Might not want to speak so quickly, so harshly, and so cruel and mean about...yet another show that was just canceled in your exact genera!


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QUOTE (noledays @ Apr 14 2009, 10:18 PM) *
Sounds a little like the pot calling the kettle black to me...

Mr. Corday, meet Mr. Kettle.

Oh yeah...and you can kiss my a$$ while you're at it!



Nothing he does or says surprises me anyone,someone needs to tatoo HYPOCRITE on his frickin forehead.


I have always wondered if he watches the show,guess I got my answer,he doesn't.


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QUOTE (Hartleyfan @ Apr 14 2009, 10:42 PM) *
Nothing he does or says surprises me anyone,someone needs to tatoo HYPOCRITE on his frickin forehead.


I have always wondered if he watches the show,guess I got my answer,he doesn't.



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QUOTE (LaBellaDawna @ Apr 14 2009, 10:31 PM) *
Kenny crapped corn and I just don't care.



QUOTE (noledays @ Apr 14 2009, 10:33 PM) *
Oh, honey...with a line like that, you should really join us in the Anti-room! I think you'd fit right in! rolling.gif

I was thinking the same thing.

I can't believe he had the nerve to say something like that.


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QUOTE (Hartleyfan @ Apr 14 2009, 11:06 PM) *
http://daytimeroyaltyonline.com/topic/8105339/1/


"In desperate times, desperate measures are sometimes the worst things to resort to. What Guiding Light became was not a soap opera. It smacked of ESPN or the evening news and done without any homage to the creator of the show. It wasn't because of one inept person in the last year or two; the show ran its course."


Where does he get off? Just goes to show how utterly oblivious he is.


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I knew that when I came into this thread, I would not like his reply. LOL! He's a azzmonkey.
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QUOTE (Hartleyfan @ Apr 14 2009, 11:06 PM) *
http://daytimeroyaltyonline.com/topic/8105339/1/


"In desperate times, desperate measures are sometimes the worst things to resort to. What Guiding Light became was not a soap opera. It smacked of ESPN or the evening news and done without any homage to the creator of the show. It wasn't because of one inept person in the last year or two; the show ran its course."





What an a**,this coming from the guy who axed the biggest supercouple EVER (John and Marlena) and axed vet after vet. Every time he opens his mouth, something stupid comes out.''Done without any homage to the creator of the show'',well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black.This is all coming from a man who has turned his parents dream into a laughing stock and hired a woman who couldn't write a greating card if her life depended on it.Do me/us a favor Corday and SHUT UP.


He's just pissed because he was upstaged. PS I finished the Wedding Story. If anyone is still interested.


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QUOTE (saved @ Apr 15 2009, 10:02 AM) *
He's right - GL did not look like a soap opera anymore.


GL is getting better.. yah not 100% yet but GL is a soap its been a soap for many many many many years.. I don't like Ken he all talk no action and this proves my point.. saying that GL isn't a soap? well apparently he never watched DOOL over again.. because if GL isn't a soap.. than AMC,OLTL,GH,BB,YR,ATWT,and DOOL aren't soaps if GL isn't a soap! I like GL heck alot better than I do right now with DOOL!


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Hartleyfan

Gotta LOVE Jamey from Daytime Confidential,here is his thoughts on what Corday said.


Perhaps the most well-informed, prolific, skilled— golfer in daytime, Days of Our Lives executive producer Ken Corday speaks out to Soap Opera Digest about CBS basically signaling the end of broadcast television by cancelling Guiding Light.

"In desperate times, desperate measures are sometimes the worst things to resort to. What GUIDING LIGHT became was not a soap opera. It smacked of ESPN or the evening news and done without any homage to the creator of the show. It wasn't because of one inept person in the last year or two; the show ran its course."

Oh Kenny, this is so not your lesson to teach! No "homage to the creator"? Okay, say what you will about Ellen Wheeler, and God knows I have, but under her jurisdiction Guiding Light crafted a beautiful, PBS-worthy tribute to Irna Phillips. What have you done to honor your Mama and Daddy's legacy Kenny?

Were you paying tribute to the serial your parents Ted and Betty Corday, along with Irna Phillips created when you unceremoniously fired five of the biggest stars in the show's history (Deidre Hall, Drake Hogestyn, Stephen Nichols, Mary Beth Evans and Thaao Penghlis) and replaced them with talking dolls, and no I don't mean Timmy, I mean Molly Burnett. Is it in honor of your birthright that you continue to allow a shameless hack, who wouldn't know a long story if it bit her on the bottom to write, I mean wreck legacy characters and pen shameful storylines that see an autistic child being thrown down stairs and off piers under the guise of "social relevance"? Is allowing a storyline that has one half of your only remaining supercouple being wasted as a cartoon psychic your idea of getting back to the basics of good soap opera? Kenny, why don't you stick to talking about what you know best, how to improve one's golf game.




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QUOTE (Hartleyfan @ Apr 14 2009, 11:42 PM) *
Nothing he does or says surprises me anyone,someone needs to tatoo HYPOCRITE on his frickin forehead.


I have always wondered if he watches the show,guess I got my answer,he doesn't.

Clearly not his own.

QUOTE (Soozn79 @ Apr 15 2009, 12:40 AM) *
Where does he get off? Just goes to show how utterly oblivious he is.

Sometimes you need to know when to keep you mouth shut. Ken clearly hasn't learn this on yet.

In all fairness I can not comment on GL . I didn't watch it.


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Theresa_Chaze

It just proves where his head is...it seems someone has a banner that describes it very well. It's too bad Betty put her faith in him. Obviously he didn't deserve it. I'm still wondering who left the show at the end of 06-beginning of 07. Whoever it was was keeping Kenny from destroying the show earlier.

For those who have been supporting the path he has been taking Days--how do you like him now? Still think the show won't be canceled?


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QUOTE (Theresa_Chaze @ Apr 15 2009, 03:23 PM) *
For those who have been supporting the path he has been taking Days--how do you like him now? Still think the show won't be canceled?


I don't suport every path that Ken Corday but I know that the times are not very good. I think that the show is better now than in 03-07 when the economy was stronger. Remember the Gemini twins? The Eden story? The Vendetta Story?(Santeen?) Billie Swap baby Alive? Yes Days has been worse and I sat through it.


I do think Ken Corday did run off his moulth but we are all guilty of that since I have never seen GL I think I will just take it at face value.
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QUOTE (Aeb_2308 @ Apr 15 2009, 04:44 PM) *
I don't support every path that Ken Corday but I know that the times are not very good. I think that the show is better now than in 03-07 when the economy was stronger. Remember the Gemini twins? The Eden story? The Vendetta Story?(Santeen?) Billie Swap baby Alive? Yes Days has been worse and I sat through it.


I do think Ken Corday did run off his mouth but we are all guilty of that since I have never seen GL I think I will just take it at face value.


Ellen Wheeler was trying new camera techniques. That is what made it different than the other soaps.

If it was just one comment, I'd also give him a pass. But it seems like ever statement he makes, he proves just how condescending he is and how little he does know about the fans, the genre and about being a producer.


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QUOTE (Theresa_Chaze @ Apr 15 2009, 04:52 PM) *
Ellen Wheeler was trying new camera techniques. That is what made it different than the other soaps.

If it was just one comment, I'd also give him a pass. But it seems like ever statement he makes, he proves just how condescending he is and how little he does know about the fans, the genre and about being a producer.


I do not know what the technques since I don't watch the show. The shows ratings have been at the bottom since the early 90 of shows still on the air so it was a last atempt to keep the show aflot.

As for his comments well he said somthing stupid but he has improved the show in the last year. Are you seriously telling me Days is worse now than during the stories that I mentioned in the above post?



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QUOTE (Hartleyfan @ Apr 15 2009, 11:46 AM) *
Gotta LOVE Jamey from Daytime Confidential,here is his thoughts on what Corday said.


Perhaps the most well-informed, prolific, skilled— golfer in daytime, Days of Our Lives executive producer Ken Corday speaks out to Soap Opera Digest about CBS basically signaling the end of broadcast television by cancelling Guiding Light.

"In desperate times, desperate measures are sometimes the worst things to resort to. What GUIDING LIGHT became was not a soap opera. It smacked of ESPN or the evening news and done without any homage to the creator of the show. It wasn't because of one inept person in the last year or two; the show ran its course."

Oh Kenny, this is so not your lesson to teach! No "homage to the creator"? Okay, say what you will about Ellen Wheeler, and God knows I have, but under her jurisdiction Guiding Light crafted a beautiful, PBS-worthy tribute to Irna Phillips. What have you done to honor your Mama and Daddy's legacy Kenny?

Were you paying tribute to the serial your parents Ted and Betty Corday, along with Irna Phillips created when you unceremoniously fired five of the biggest stars in the show's history (Deidre Hall, Drake Hogestyn, Stephen Nichols, Mary Beth Evans and Thaao Penghlis) and replaced them with talking dolls, and no I don't mean Timmy, I mean Molly Burnett. Is it in honor of your birthright that you continue to allow a shameless hack, who wouldn't know a long story if it bit her on the bottom to write, I mean wreck legacy characters and pen shameful storylines that see an autistic child being thrown down stairs and off piers under the guise of "social relevance"? Is allowing a storyline that has one half of your only remaining supercouple being wasted as a cartoon psychic your idea of getting back to the basics of good soap opera? Kenny, why don't you stick to talking about what you know best, how to improve one's golf game.



http://daytimeconfidential.com/2009/04/con...ht-cancellation



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QUOTE (Aeb_2308 @ Apr 15 2009, 07:55 PM) *
I do not know what the technques since I don't watch the show. The shows ratings have been at the bottom since the early 90 of shows still on the air so it was a last atempt to keep the show aflot.

As for his comments well he said somthing stupid but he has improved the show in the last year. Are you seriously telling me Days is worse now than during the stories that I mentioned in the above post?


Improved the show ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!!! He has destroyed three of the most popular fan bases by firing the firing the actors--you know ones with actual talent. The third-Bo and Hope is on the way out from what I've read on the boards. Bo as a psychic? There is no basis for it and from what I've seen the writers did less than zero research and are writing from sheer bigotry. It's looking like Hope will be having an affair with Roman--which is totally contrary to her character and Roman's. The who killed Trent murder mystery was a joke--a bad one at that. No one cared that he was killed and Nick being the killer was just pulled out of the air. His big drug problem, which was supposed to make him crazy, developed over a week. Then you have the triangles, the baby switching, instant love from sex in elevators....the storylines are inconsistent, shallow and fortune cookies are better thought out and developed. The new characters don't have personalities--the are caricatures. The actors don't have enough talent to be cast in high school productions. Showing and looking good doesn't make you an actor; it makes you a mannequin, which is all the newbies are. The experienced actors they have brought in haven't been given anything to work with when it comes to character or script.

Higley has been fired from every gig she has gotten because she writes the same crap wherever she goes. She refuses to learn the show or character history. Days no longer is a show of suspense, drama, romance and humor, but one of soft porn for tweens and teens where love is sex in an elevator. That's all she can write. I put a few Youtube videos on my blog of the good old Days. If you aren't afraid of having your delusions shattered, watch them. That was good TV.

Everyone in the industry knows it. Kenny knows it and that's why he hired her--to tank the show.

Are the other soaps doing better--I don't know. I do know that the writers keep being circulated from show to show which has made them all stagnant.

But hey, I've got my resume material. There has to be someone who is looking for fresh material. I've fulfilled my promise plus. The ghost story is finished. The Wedding is finished. I've moved on to new projects. How much I'll be visiting the boards in the future, I don't know. Cause frankly, I've run out of things to say. It's time to flush the toilet of the crap Higley has been spreading. Eventually the septic tank will break it on down and Days will disappear into history, taking with it Higley, Corday and Tomlin. Good ridden to the last three.



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QUOTE (Theresa_Chaze @ Apr 15 2009, 09:14 PM) *
Improved the show ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!!! He has destroyed three of the most popular fan bases by firing the firing the actors--you know ones with actual talent. The third-Bo and Hope is on the way out from what I've read on the boards. Bo as a psychic? There is no basis for it and from what I've seen the writers did less than zero research and are writing from sheer bigotry. It's looking like Hope will be having an affair with Roman--which is totally contrary to her character and Roman's. The who killed Trent murder mystery was a joke--a bad one at that. No one cared that he was killed and Nick being the killer was just pulled out of the air. His big drug problem, which was supposed to make him crazy, developed over a week. Then you have the triangles, the baby switching, instant love from sex in elevators....the storylines are inconsistent, shallow and fortune cookies are better thought out and developed. The new characters don't have personalities--the are caricatures. The actors don't have enough talent to be cast in high school productions. Showing and looking good doesn't make you an actor; it makes you a mannequin, which is all the newbies are. The experienced actors they have brought in haven't been given anything to work with when it comes to character or script.

Higley has been fired from every gig she has gotten because she writes the same crap wherever she goes. She refuses to learn the show or character history. Days no longer is a show of suspense, drama, romance and humor, but one of soft porn for tweens and teens where love is sex in an elevator. That's all she can write. I put a few Youtube videos on my blog of the good old Days. If you aren't afraid of having your delusions shattered, watch them. That was good TV.

Everyone in the industry knows it. Kenny knows it and that's why he hired her--to tank the show.

Are the other soaps doing better--I don't know. I do know that the writers keep being circulated from show to show which has made them all stagnant.

But hey, I've got my resume material. There has to be someone who is looking for fresh material. I've fulfilled my promise plus. The ghost story is finished. The Wedding is finished. I've moved on to new projects. How much I'll be visiting the boards in the future, I don't know. Cause frankly, I've run out of things to say. It's time to flush the toilet of the crap Higley has been spreading. Eventually the septic tank will break it on down and Days will disappear into history, taking with it Higley, Corday and Tomlin. Good ridden to the last three.



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QUOTE (Hartleyfan @ Apr 14 2009, 11:06 PM) *
http://daytimeroyaltyonline.com/topic/8105339/1/


"In desperate times, desperate measures are sometimes the worst things to resort to. What Guiding Light became was not a soap opera. It smacked of ESPN or the evening news and done without any homage to the creator of the show. It wasn't because of one inept person in the last year or two; the show ran its course."


What an ass. At least Guiding Light kept and used many of their beloved vets and even brought back former popular characters to try and make an effort. Too bad it was too late. Corday is one to talk, look at how many popular and talented actors he has fired and how many useless, talentless newbies he's brought on. Shut up Ken! Jerk.


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Theresa_Chaze


Would anyone mind if I posted this thread on my blog. It's getting a little traffic, so it might help. Help do what I'm not sure. But I believe in miracles... or it could just be gas.


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